#734982 - 04/25/08 02:12 PM
Let's talk food prices!
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Hugs
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Have you noticed a difference in your grocery bill lately? The cost of food is on the rise and they say it's going to get worse. Yikes! Apparently, the rise in gasoline prices (to transport goods) and a worldwide food shortage will be driving our grocery dollar to the limit. Are you feeling the pinch yet?
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#734984 - 04/25/08 02:15 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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Ladybug Mom
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I haven't noticed it too much, but things that regularly go one sale are not as frequent lately. I tend to stock up on items that we use often to get me through the next sale. Lately I've been running out!
One thing I did notice the other day was 1lb block of butter was over $5!!!
Edited by Ladybug Mom (04/25/08 02:19 PM) Edit Reason: typo
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#734989 - 04/25/08 02:28 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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SarahNB
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No name flour has gone from $5.99 to $12.99. I use a bag a month. World Vision is feeling the crunch with the price of rice going up.
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#734995 - 04/25/08 02:36 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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2manyguys2009
Registered: 10/28/07
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Loc: Yorkton, SK
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And I don't think the price of flour and bread will ever come down at all, due to the fact that the wheat should be used for FOOD, not GAS.
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/02/20/wheat-prices.html
And the worst part is that the stores that have their own store brands, are trying to match their prices close to national brands, and it ain't cheap anymore.
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#735048 - 04/25/08 03:52 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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maggiesmom
Registered: 04/14/06
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Our flour has also gone up from $3.98 to 12.98 for a 10kg bag. I make all our bread so this is significant for us. Sugar has also gone up. We didn't buy any extra flour when we heard it may go up so this week when we read in the paper about the price of rice going up we went out and bought 2 10kg bags even though we have one in the basement unopened already. We are already spending as little as possible on our groceries. We get the good food box once a month, we buy no name and bulk when possible. I even buy the bags of veg's that are on half price because they are starting to go. And last week we bought all our meat half price because they were right before the best before date (we have a deep freeze so its helpfull) My husband and I have been talking about it and if prices go up too high we aren't sure what we will do. We already live in an expensive city (Calgary) and our budget is streatched to the limit :-(
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#735165 - 04/25/08 07:06 PM
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JillyMB
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I'm also opposed to using grain to make ethanol fuel. Not only has it driven up the price of food worldwide, I've been told by several mechanics that it's bad for cars too. It's the kind of thing that seemed like a good idea but the gov't legislated in without thinking about all the possible side effects.
The only thing I've really noticed a price increase in is bread. Thank goodness I bought a huge bag of rice last fall, it should last us a while!
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#736386 - 04/28/08 09:10 AM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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moonrise
Registered: 03/18/05
Posts: 3246
Loc: Ontario
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I notice it mostly on bread and milk. A loaf of WW bread is almost $3. That is up nearly 100% from 2 years ago. Veggies are more expensive. I used to spend maybe $75 on food a week, 5 years ago, now I can't go under $150 a week, so for us it is very noticable. And I've cut out paper products and cleaning supplies. I also cut out cheap foods so that has something to do with it as well. Processed foods are scarce in our cupboards too, but again they are cheap so I had to replace them with healthier options which in todays world means more expensive!
Fuel prices are higher, but making bio fuels out of food is not good for the situation either... We use copious amounts of energy to produce bio fuels out of with wheat and corn, meanwhile food is in sort supply. Doesn't make sense. The worst thing about bio fuels IMO is the fact that they are bieng pushed as a "green" option. Nothing could be further from the truth. The bio fules take more energy to produce then they provide, and they are a direct cause of greenhouse gasses. The fertalizers used on the growing crops evaporate in rainwater (enter greenhouse gas) and the runoff from the farms infects drinking water. In certain area's in Iowa, the govt, has "blue baby" alerts in the growing season, during these times you can't drink water out of the taps you have buy bottled water. And after all bio fules are nothing more than a fossil fuel!!
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#736484 - 04/28/08 01:12 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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2manyguys2009
Registered: 10/28/07
Posts: 3857
Loc: Yorkton, SK
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I never use biofuel for my vehicles at all (mohawk gas) because I end up spending more money to keeping it filled. One time, when my mom had the LeSabre, and she had to use the nearby Mohawk gas station to fill it up, since she normally uses Shell. Well, the car just couldn't handle the biofuel at all, which cause the car to slow down in speed, even worse when that happened on the highway. It wouldn't go pass 50 KM/hr on the speedometer.
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#736552 - 04/28/08 03:05 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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bigfamily
Registered: 04/09/07
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Loc: GTA, ON
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I noticed a jump in food prices on the staples like bread, flour, rice etc....but moreso, I've noticed a DROP in prices on processed foods like lunch snacks (granola bars, fishy crackers, boxed raisins, etc.)...there is a huge price war going on from major retailer to major retailer. If you're lucky enough to find many in your area shop around, you might be surprised at how CHEAP these items have become.
Fruits and veggies have remained the same or gotten cheaper overall as certified organics are now the hot ticket item and wholesalers are having to drop their prices to be competitive with organically grown fruits and veggies.
Fresh or frozen meat is dropping too. I can't believe some of the deals out now, especially if you need large quantities (like us!)....a push toward veganism/vegetarianism maybe?...making meats no longer an easy sell. We like our meat, so we're happy to take advantage of the drop in prices there.
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#736584 - 04/28/08 03:42 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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chel
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We went to Costco & dh bought me another 20 kg of flour & big bag of rice. I do a LOT of baking so it was worth it. Then we figure might as well buy the rice in case it goes up.
Then we went to the store & saw bread, buns etc (name brands) are already higher. Seems strange that products ALREADY on the shelf would be increased - dh says it is the 'panic' syndrome and cash cow. The stores want to make more money so are raising prices 'just in case' and people are madly freaking out & going shopping now LOL
But we usually just buy fresh veggies/fruit, cheese & assorted cereals. We already joked if bread was going to be $10 a loaf in the next year my kids will just have to deal with homemade
I do think a lot of it is the gas station mentality. X is saying it might cost more so let's increase...oh, wait Y just increased so Z will too. Should be interesting to see - we don't buy meat or many packaged foods so not sure how those are doing LOL
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#736630 - 04/28/08 04:22 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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CPOhelen
Registered: 01/09/00
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I have noticed the cost of all whole wheat products have gone up - especially the bread. My mom joked the other day about a man she knows who is on a tight budget and that he has always known how many slices of bread he gets per loaf - so he can get the best bang for his buck. Makes you think he is on to something.
My son often brings home the crusts from his sandwich and while I don't cater to the kids likes - I dont' like the throw food away and am starting to cut the crust off before I make the sandwich and use the crust for croutons or breadcrumbs. If he isn't going to eat them we may as well use them!
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#736918 - 04/29/08 08:18 AM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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henrys
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This article was in last night's market recap that I get every day from Canadian Business :
High food prices to come to Canada in a matter of months: report Julian Beltrame, The Canadian Press April 28, 2008 - 3:44 p.m.
OTTAWA - Canada cannot remain immune to the skyrocketing food prices that already affect much of the world and it may be only a matter of months before the impact here has a major impact on the economy, says a new report from Bank of Nova Scotia (TSX:BNS).
Except for baked goods, Canada been mostly spared the price spikes in basic foods that has roiled the developing world and even caused two major food retailers in the United States to ration some types of rice as a "precaution" against hoarding.
Because most agricultural commodities like grain, fuel and fertilizer are priced in U.S. dollars, the stronger loonie has cushioned Canadians from many of these shocks. Consumers have also benefited from stiff competition among grocery chains.
"But I don't think Canada can escape the sort of food pass-through that has been going on in the global economy indefinitely," says Derek Holt, vice-president at Scotia Capital Economics, who wrote the report.
"This is the year it starts to catch up to Canada. We've already started to see in some key categories and that will intensify in the summer months."
Scotiabank's warning is the latest in several issued recently by Canadian businesses and international agencies.
The United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization reports that global food prices have increased 57 per cent from last year, while the price of rice has doubled.
Meanwhile, the World Bank has forecast the higher prices are likely to last at least two years before moderating slightly.
Holt said that Canadian spending habits could change profoundly once food prices begin rising, along with higher gasoline and heating prices that have already hit Canada.
"It's a very material risk that people will start seeing themselves having to spend dozens or hundreds of dollars a month more on basic groceries, home heating and gasoline costs," Holt says.
"You've got to do something, so you start to rein in spending on everything else and you postpone plans buy that HD television, or build a backyard deck."
Several analysts have also forecast that Canada's holiday from food price shock will not last forever.
But where Holt's analysis differs from others is that he believes the likely impact will not be higher inflation, but lower prices for everything except food and energy.
Holt argues that sky-high energy and food prices could actually be disinflationary for Canada because consumers will have less to spend on everything else.
"That becomes a very dangerous scenario where you can have some sectors doing very well, food and energy, but other sectors see their pricing power totally evaporate," Holt said.
While low inflation is generally regarded as a good thing, disinflation could trigger an economic slump because it may result in consumers and businesses holding back on purchases and investments in expectations of lower prices down the road.
"I think rationing in food is a possibility," he said. "But an even bigger danger is that we go back to the days when we thought price and wage controls were a smart thing, this time applied to a particular sectors."
One encouraging development is that farmers have begun to switch to cash crops to take advantage of the higher prices, but Holt said it will likely take three to four years before the higher production is felt in the market.
Wow - food rationing in Canada in this day and age??? Now that's scary!!!
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#736992 - 04/29/08 10:04 AM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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2manyguys2009
Registered: 10/28/07
Posts: 3857
Loc: Yorkton, SK
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It feels like another" Depression era" is coming,...........................:(
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#737092 - 04/29/08 12:30 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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MomofC's
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Registered: 04/24/03
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Loc: SK
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Trying to hang on until customer appreciation day when there is a 10% discount. Do you really save on those days or is it a gimmick? I always think they jack up the prices by 10%.
I used to think so too.. but they don't. Not where I shop, anyway. I actually checked LOL! (Some stores do, and have for years. I stopped shopping at Save On Foods years ago for two reasons. First, the stuff that was on sale wasn't on the shelves. They would have everything but the specific item on sale. Second.. their regular prices took a mysterious "jump" just before the sale week or whatever hit. I was part of a cooking co-op and we normally shopped at Save On. When we clued into what they were doing.. we left two cart fulls in the aisles and shopped elsewhere.)
Check the flyer this week no matter where you shop. See what's on sale? Things a large majority of people buy on a regular basis. Next week, there will be less on sale, and even less that people would normally buy. Especially if they're watching their budget. I fully expect to see a smaller flyer, half full of high fat, high sodium pre-packaged food.
So now, I check the flyer the week before. If something we will need is on sale for more than the 10% off regular price, I go get it.
The rest of this is just flat out scary. Part of this is the cost of gas for sure. But this biofuel thing is BAD. Wheat and corn need to be used to feed PEOPLE.. not vehicles.
I didn't even notice the price of a big bag of flour last month. I was on my own shopping so I grabbed a small one. Bread is going up though. The manager where I shop said a couple of months ago that it's the staples a lot of lower income people rely on that are going through the roof... and just wait for the fall-out from that.
Punky I try NOT to think along those lines yet.. but I do think we're heading for some tougher times for sure.
Food rationing?? What a thought. Backyard gardens anyone?
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#737185 - 04/29/08 02:25 PM
Re: Let's talk food prices!
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JillyMB
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Backyard gardens for sure! Also maybe people will actually pick and (god forbid) EAT the apples on the trees in their backyards. (I see so many of them wasted, it's just viewed as a mess on the lawn) Buying locally grown foods can't hurt.
I hate to say this but it's up to us to stop eating so much, and also stop wasting so much.
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